Dalit Christans and Muslims

Joseph D'souza: What Next for Dalit Christians?

MAY 23, 2007
What Next for Dalit Christians?
Finally, the Justice Mishra Commission has come out in favour of reservation for Dalit Christians and Muslims. The main argument, like the one in the petition before the Supreme Court, is that religion should not have been used as the criteria to determine Dalit reservation in the Presidential Order of 1950.

One member in the Commission, Asha Das, has dissented saying that the Parliament or Judiciary cannot change religious practice. Her argument is that Islam and Christianity as religions do not in principle have the caste system as part of their religious ethos. She is silent, however, on how Parliament was able to give reservation to Dalit Sikhs and Dalit Buddhists when both Sikhism and Buddhism also do not allow for the caste system. Further, she is silent on the research data which reveals that the caste system and caste-based discrimination of Dalits has penetrated all religions in India. Those who perpetrate crimes against Dalits do not first verify if their victims are Dalit Hindus or Dalit Christians. The fact that they are Dalits is enough to abuse and discriminate against them.

I think that despite the Mishra Commission's recommendation, the Government is going to vacillate on the issue when the case appears for its hearing in the Supreme Court. The UPA Government has a strong upper caste lobby which is against any positive action or reservations for Dalit Christians and Dalit Muslims. They are also against reservations for Other Backward Caste (OBC) students in higher institutions.

The extremist Hindutva lobby fears that if Dalit Christians are given reservations, then all Dalits everywhere will exit Hinduism into Christianity and other religions. They are going to try and block this initiative by any means necessary. Their agenda is to keep the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes trapped in the caste system. Their response to the Commission’s recommendation shows the hypocrisy of the anti-conversion laws forced into practice in state after state under the guise of preventing forced and fraudulent conversions. If anyone has used forced and fraudulent means to imprison and discriminate against millions of people (namely the 250 million Dalits) it is the Hindutva brigade. Instead of passing anti-conversion laws, why are they not working on laws that will abolish caste ideology and the practice of the caste system in India? It is caste slavery that is pushing Dalits and the Backward Castes into other faiths.

The fight for Dalit Christian reservation is largely led by Dalit Christian groups who are involved in the Dalit Freedom cause. Now non-Christian Dalit groups like Udit Raj's Confederation and others also support Dalit Christian reservation.

Upper caste Christians are not really in the forefront of the struggle, even though there are some exceptions. The question for the predominantly upper caste Christian leadership of the Church is: How long will it take before you proactively remove casteism and the caste system in the Church? The writing is on the wall. Dalits will not be denied their just rights anymore both inside and outside the Church. The caste system is being revealed for what it really is – India's Hidden Apartheid. How long before Church leadership removes this disgusting blemish of caste practice in the Church when it comes to marriage, community, leadership and fellowship? Will the Church in India (across denominational lines) split and break apart due to the unwillingness of the minority upper caste leadership in the Church to deal with the caste system within the Church? How can one argue for the unity of the Church based on the glaring unrighteousness and injustice within the Church?

I hope the international business community is detecting the major caste churning going on in India and is not fooled by the upper caste business community who live in perpetual self-denial about the caste system. The election of a Dalit as Chief Minister of India's largest state (Uttar Pradesh) is the loudest political signal coming out of India this month. Multinationals cannot afford to walk around blindfolded to caste realities even as they rush in to enjoy the profits of the new Indian economy

The 'India Rising' is but one small facet of the India mosaic. The larger face of India is of the majority oppressed and facing discrimination, the poor, the suicidal farmers and the abused Dalits.
Posted by klajja at May 23, 2007 01:21 AM

The Dalit Christian Dhobies of India



Slogans against Congress in Dalit Christian/Muslim Rally

Wisdom is Justified by Her Children: The Great Apostasy Prophesied by the Lord Jesus Christ

Wisdom is Justified by Her Children: The Great Apostasy Prophesied by the Lord Jesus Christ:

TUESDAY, MARCH 6, 2007

The Great Apostasy Prophesied by the Lord Jesus Christ

According to St. Augustine the Sixth Age of the World lasts until the Second Coming of Christ.

Our Lord Jesus Christ's Second Coming is, according to St. Augustine, the Seventh Day. (Ages and Days are the same. They are not of equal length from one to the next.) The Eighth Day is the eternal age in the recreated universe when Christ has returned and reigns visibly forevermore.

Parallel passage references are from the full consensus of the Church Fathers according to the Council of Trent.

Mt:24:

1 ¶ And Jesus being come out of the temple, went away. And his disciples came to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2 And he answering, said to them: Do you see all these things? Amen I say to you, there shall not be left here a stone upon a stone that shall not be destroyed.

[Lk:19:44:

44 And beat thee flat to the ground, and thy children who are in thee. And they shall not leave in thee a stone upon a stone: because thou hast not known the time of thy visitation. (DRV)

The temple destruction was in 70 A.D. See Luke chapter 21.]

3 aAnd when he was sitting on mount Olivet, the disciples came to him privately, saying: bTell us when shall these things be? cAnd what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the consummation of the world?

[v. 3 This dates this as basically end time prophecy from this point on]

4 ¶ And Jesus answering, said to them: Take heed that no man seduce you.

[Jer:29:8:

8 ¶ For thus saith the Lord of hosts the God of Israel: Let not your prophets that are in the midst of you, and your diviners deceive you: and give no heed to your dreams which you dream: (DRV)

Eph:5:6, 11, 24:

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words. For because of these things cometh the anger of God upon the children of unbelief.

11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness: but rather reprove them.

24a Therefore as the church is subject to Christ: (DRV)

Jer:14:14:

14 And the Lord said to me: The prophets prophesy falsely in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, nor have I spoken to them: they prophesy unto you a lying vision, and divination and deceit, and the seduction of their own heart. (DRV)]

5 For many will come in my name saying, I am Christ. And they will seduce many.

6 And you shall hear of wars and rumours of wars. See that ye be not troubled. For these things must come to pass: but the end is not yet.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: And there shall be pestilences and famines and earthquakes in places.

8 Now all these are the beginnings of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted and shall put you to death: and you shall be hated by all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be scandalized and shall betray one another and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise and shall seduce many.

12 And because iniquity hath abounded, the charity of many shall grow cold.

13 But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world, for a testimony to all nations: and then shall the consummation come.

[This dates this from here on as the end of the eschaton. The eschaton is the consummation of this age of grace which began with Our Lord Jesus Christ’s Incarnation by the Holy Spirit, conceived and born of the Blessed Virgin Mary. The eschaton or the ending events, began with v. 3c "And what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the consummation of the world?" From here on it is the very final events leading up to Our Lord’s Second Coming. See article directly below for continuation.]

Wisdom is Justified by Her Children: The Great Tribulation and the End of this Age:

TUESDAY, MARCH 6, 2007

The Great Tribulation and the End of this Age

15  When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand.

[Dn:9:27:

27  And he shall confirm the covenant with many, in one week: and in the half of the week the victim and the sacrifice shall fail: and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation: and the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end. (DRV)]

16  Then they that are in Judea, let them flee to the mountains:

[Means to utterly flee from any involvement with the with those things contrary to the Gospel.]

17  And he that is on the housetop, let him not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18  And he that is in the field, let him not go back to take his coat.

19  And woe to them that are with child and that give suck in those days.

20  But pray that your flight be not in the winter or on the sabbath.

21  For there shall be then great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be.

22  And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved: but for the sakeof the elect those days shall be shortened.

[This refers to the short duration, by God’s Sovereign command, of the persecution.]

23  Then if any man shall say to you, Lo here is Christ, or there: do not believe him.

24  For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.

25  Behold I have told it to you, beforehand.

26  If therefore they shall say to you, Behold he is in the desert: go ye not out. Behold he is in the closets: believe it not.

[From v. 27 on down is the Second Coming of Our Only Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and the general resurrection of all men and the final judgement by Jesus Christ Himself.]

27  For as lightning cometh out of the east and appeareth even into the west: so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28  Wheresoever the body shall be, there shall the eagles also be gathered together.

29  And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light and the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of heaven shall be moved.

30  And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven. And then shall all tribes of the earth mourn: and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with much power and majesty.

31  And he shall send his angels with a trumpet and a great voice: and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the farthest parts of the heavens to the utmost bounds of them.

32 ¶ And from the fig tree learn a parable: When the branch thereof is now tender and the leaves come forth, you know that summer is nigh.

33  So you also, when you shall see all these things, know ye that it is nigh, even at the doors.

34  Amen I say to you that this generation shall not pass till all these things be done.

35  Heaven and earth shall pass: but my words shall not pass.

36  But of that day and hour no one knoweth: no, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.

37  And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38  For, as in the days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, even till that day in which Noe entered into the ark:

39  And they knew not till the flood came and took them all away: so also shall the coming of the Son of man be.

40  Then two shall be in the field. One shall be taken and one shall be left.

41  Two women shall be grinding at the mill. One shall be taken and one shall be left.

[vs. 40 and 41 According to the Church Fathers and Doctors this refers to the binding of the cockle to be burnt with eternal fire. The cockle are the damned and the ones who do the binding are God’s angels. This does not refer to any “secret rapture”. There is no “secret rapture”. The so-called “secret rapture” is heretical docetic denial of the resurrection.]

42  Watch ye therefore, because you know not what hour your Lord will come.

43  But this know ye, that, if the goodman of the house knew at what hour the thief would come, he would certainly watch and would not suffer his house to be broken open.

44  Wherefore be you also ready, because at what hour you know not the Son of man will come.

45  Who, thinkest thou, is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath appointed over his family, to give them meat in season?

46  Blessed is that servant, whom when his lord shall come he shall find so doing.

47  Amen I say to you: he shall place him over all his goods.

48  But if that evil servant shall say in his heart: My lord is long a coming:

49  And shall begin to strike his fellow servants and shall eat and drink with drunkards:

50  The lord of that servant shall come in a day that he hopeth not and at an hour that he knoweth not:

51  And shall separate him and appoint his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

(DRV)

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Leila Hussein: Europa & Palestine News « Kawther Salam:

It is become increasingly clear that the Palestinians are only pawns to be used by any number of interests. All the Jews who had any conscience at all in Occupied Palestine, whether Sabras (born there) or not, started leaving in the 1980's. The obvious solution is for all Palestinian people to simply leave and go anywhere else. In about six months to 4 years when the world looks back in at what Occupied Palestine looks like when there are only the Jews and PNA left there for that length of time, what we will probably find is only rubble to be cleared and bodies to be buried. Cancer always finally destroys itself. I am quite serious, in preaching to the multitudes about the destruction of Jerusalem, which He foretold, Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ warned them to flee and not be there when the end came. The Christians listened and fled to Pella (East of the Jordan River) when Jerusalem fell and NONE of the Christians were harmed. The Perfidious and always bloody Jews where utterly destroyed by the Roman General Titus in 70 A.D. Jesus Christ speaking. Matthew 24:15 When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand. 16 Then they that are in Judea, let them flee to the mountains: 17 And he that is on the housetop, let him not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 And he that is in the field, let him not go back to take his coat. 19 And woe to them that are with child, and that give suck in those days. 20 But pray that your flight be not in the winter, or on the sabbath. There will be right of full return when the ZioNazis are all gone. Let God deal with this plague of locusts. Right now the Palestinians are only human shields for the ZioNazis. Don't be used that way.

Europa & Palestine News « Kawther Salam

Europa & Palestine News « Kawther Salam

Palestinian Minister Rapes Child in Tel Aviv?

A Palestinian family from Ramallah recently demanded that President Mahmoud Abbas punish his so-called Civil Affairs Minister, Mr. Hussein Al-Sheikh, who they say raped their minor daughter. Minister Al-Sheikh bamboozled the girls’s family and convinced them to accompany him on a journey of recreation to the shores of Tel Aviv, where he raped the girl. The immoral behavior of the minister has caused the understandable resentment and anger of her family, which lives in conservative Palestinian society where girls and women are “punished” with death for even being looked at, what is called “honor killings”.

Minister, Rapist, Criminal. Psychopath?

Minister Al-Sheikh tried to bribe the victim’s family by paying US$ 65 thousand dollars in return for silence, but the family refused the money and insisted to go to President Abbas, who promised to punish the offender. The promise of the President Abbas did not get out from behind the closed doors of the meeting, and the rogue “Minister” Al-Sheikh is still in his position and enjoys impunity. After the incident with the girl, Al-Sheikh raped another woman, this time a married woman. Her husband filed a criminal complaint against the Minister, but the rapist Minister Al-Sheikh remains free.

Palestinian Prime Minister Dr. Salam Fayyad, who receives massive support from USA and EU, covers up these rapes and other horrors perpetrated by his Minister Al-Sheikh. Fayyad also covers up the corruption of his “Minister of Foreign Affairs”, Dr. Riyad Al-Maliki, who embezzled the whole budget of the Ministry for his own pocket and failed to fulfill any of the duties of his position as a minister. From the Cabinet of Fayyad wafts an especially rotten smell, not only because Fayyad is imposed by the US and CIA elements, but also because of widespread ans systemic corruption. It is otherwise not understandable why Fayyad protects the crimes of his Ministers, either it is corruption what unites them, or it is the diktat from the US which wants these criminals to stay in power, because in Palestine nobody wants them.

Minister Al-Sheikh was already known to have raped a number of beautiful Palestinian girls before these lat outrages. He uses his positions to lure young women and girls and then rape them with impunity. Among the girls whom he had raped earlier are several Christian girls. The position of “Minister of Civil Affairs” means that he is the Minister in charge of contact with the Israeli military administration in order to obtain VIP cards for the important figures (fat cats) of the Palestinian authority, travel permits for students, workers, sick people, marrying couples, burial permissions etc.

Everything in Palestine needs a permission issued by the Israeli occupation, and this position and ministry is in charge of going to the israelis to lick arse to get the permissions necessary for society to be able to function. Even President Abbas and his diplomatic staff need travel permits from the Israeli military administration whenever they want to travel abroad or move between the PNA cantons in the occupied territories. As said, the last victim of this Minister is a married woman from Ramallah. Her husband presented a criminal complaint to the Office of President Abbas, but Abbas, another kindred spirit of the israelis, is covering up the crimes of Al-Sheikh.

According to my knowledge Israel nominates the Palestinian Ministers who deal with their military officers, and not the Palestinian Authority. The PNA only offers up a list of names, from which their “security” system, Mossad, Shabak, military intelligence, choose the persons who they want. Al-Sheikh, the current Palestinian Minister of “Civil Affairs”, does not “deal” with an Israeli minister but sits in Beit-Il in the office of some IDF officer (or even a simple soldier) whenever he needs an ID or a travel permit for any Palestinian, and receives (or not) what he comes to ask for, plus orders.

Minister Al-Sheikh has built good relationship with the  Israelis since before being a minister because he is a native speaker of Hebrew. Another important factor why Minister al-Sheikh is in his position, is because the israelis, who know of his criminal inclinations, want him there exactly because of that – and this is a recurring theme which can be observed everywhere: the israelis only allow criminals and corrupt people anywhere near them – obviously a deep understanding amond kindred spirits.

In the occupied Palestinian territories, the old Jordanian and Egyptian laws which were issued before 1967 are still being implemented at courts of justice despite nobody wanting them and many efforts to replace them. These inhuman old laws protect rapists of women and minor girls discriminate between men and women. Under these laws, the girls who are subject to rape and are over the age of 15 have no rights, because these laws deal with them not as victims, but as if they had consented to the rape. These inhuman laws were introduced in the Middle East by the French many decades ago and later copied by the Jordanians, before 1967.

Beyond these disgusting laws, the Palestinian Authority and the political fat cats systematically cover up rape, incest and honor killings. A number of PA figures perpetrate such crimes as a pastime and assault women working at their offices. When anyone from the PA or political figures hear about such a problem of rape and sexual abuse, the criminals are not prosecuted. In addition to this, whenever the crime submitted to the court of justice, light sentences are issued against the offender in order to protect them from further prosecution.

Under this criminal regime, the Palestinian community is faced with an increase of “honor killing” of girls and women because of the increase of sexual crimes perpetrated by PA figures who know they remain impune. The PA ignores this issues and responds to it with increasingly brutal suppression against the nation, imposing its power and control by arresting not only the political opposition but anybody who dares to speak out about their crimes.

In more than one case of rape and honor killing, President Abbas and his ministers promised to change the family laws in Palestine to reflect the will of the people and implement justice and equality for women. Actually, he changed several laws which serve the military, his interest and power, but under the laws which concerns the Palestinian family, women are still the subhumans. The promises of Abbas have remained in place because he fears that changing the laws will negatively his ministers, officers, senior officials and employees in power who use the impunity in law and among their peers continue to rape women and harass girls and workers sexually.

The EU finances this disgusting state of affairs with at least EUR 300 Million annually, between direct cash gifts to the PA and moneys given to many people and organizations within who enjoy the rents of nepotism of the PA.

The information on which this is based article was originally published inPalestinian online media, among others Al-Mustaqbal newspaper.